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Korra, last and first Avatar ([personal profile] alphatar) wrote in [community profile] tushanshu_logs2013-07-10 04:45 pm

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Characters: Korra, Finnick, Po, Bean, Dinah, Tony Stark (616), Amon, Sabriel, Jim Kirk, Damian, Toph, Lin, Jack Frost, Raimei, Enjolras, Kyle Rayner, Bruce Banner, Asbel, Aisha, Katniss, Iskierka, Richard, and OPEN (That means YOU.)
Date: Various dates throughout July when not conflicting with Korra’s time during the clueventure.
Location: Korra’s suite, Various locations
Situation: Fish, Training, Flying, and whatever else happens!
Warnings/Rating: Physical violence, PTSD, NPC death, blood, FEELS, maybe even some swearing.

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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-07-24 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
That's how you start, [he agrees.] Once you can do it there, you can use it in regular situations. It's slow. [Bruce had worked on it literally for years, his ability to simply not react when attacked or provoked, and he'd already had a level, reserved disposition before then.

He appreciates her not pressing. And her response gets a slight huff of laughter from him, one hand leaving a knee to come up and rub across his face, wry.]
That's what they say, but it never really works for me. [His hand lowers.] You probably... don't have a lot of luck trying to clear your mind, right? Like it's all-- too much and won't go away?

[Anger has a way of consuming everything else in your head, and trying to get rid of it is like trying to kill a hydra. Cut off one head and three more appear.]

I had to learn another method.
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-07-25 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
[He shifts a shoulder in a suggestion of a shrug.] There's a lot of ways. Most people don't turn to meditation for anger management on this scale, [he quips, more comfortable turning a topic this serious for him into a slight joke.]

The first thing is that you have to stop trying to get rid of it. The anger, the, resentment. All of it. It's not-- going anywhere. [That had been an exceedingly hard lesson for Bruce to learn, the product of years of gradual, begrudging acceptance coming in increments. But maybe it'd be easier for her.]

But you can choose when you let it out. How much it affects you. If you let it out a little on purpose, then it won't be such a... flood.
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-07-27 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
[He'd never said it was easy, and he knows better than anyone just how hard it is. It seems simple to say that you should control how your anger affects you, but in the heat of the moment, it was burning and unstoppable, like a force of nature tearing through him. Until the Hulk had happened, Bruce had thought that he'd had a handle on it. That he'd figured out how to suppress his anger so that he wouldn't hurt anyone, and the truth was that he hadn't had an outburst for years throughout college.

Until the Hulk. Which raised the question of what had happened to all that anger he'd been not letting out.]


Meditation helps, [he cautions.] That's why I do it every day. But it's not to... let it flow out. [The standard meditation instructions.] It's to let myself feel it.

You can't practice control by removing what you're trying to control. [Bruce shakes his head.] You'll never be away from the elements. You should try-- using them. Out somewhere there isn't anyone around. Try to tap into it on purpose, fueled by... what you're trying to protect others from.

[He assumes that's far less irreversible for her than for him. When Bruce taps into it, he lets out the Hulk for however long Hulk decides he's going to be out, and he can't affect what happens afterward. Korra, presumably, can do a little better than that. He may be slightly jealous.]
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-07-29 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It's definitely non-standard, [he says dryly.] But most people don't have to deal with... so much, when they meditate. And I don't know if they really-- get it. What it's like to push it all back.

[It was like telling someone to stand on the shore and watch an oncoming tidal wave come in, and telling them to hold it back with only their hands. Bruce knew you needed more than that. You needed defenses, constant walls rebuilt every day as they're eroded by the water, and you need to let some of the water through, redirect it, instead of trying to fight it all.

He's not surprised the standard meditation tactics hadn't worked for her, if she has at all a similar problem to his. Though presumably not nearly as drastic as the Hulk. But his teachers probably wouldn't have advised it, either-- it was experience that had taught him this method. Hard experience over the course of years.

Then his gaze sharpens at her suggestion, because he hasn't seen that on the network yet and he doesn't like what it implies. That there might be backlash for her trying to learn control however she might manage it. Bruce is understandably somewhat defensive of anyone coming down on that, given his personal identification with it.]


Why? If it works, then no one has a leg to stand on over how controversial it is.
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-07-29 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
[Bruce has nothing if not a thick skin, and any doubt in his methods is deservedly justified. They aren't an absolute solution for him either, and he's well aware. They're an improvement, but they aren't a solution, and he can't promise that they'll even work for her the way they've worked for him. He's just offering them out of a desire not to see anyone else hurt by a problem he's so familiar with if he can help it.

But he hadn't realized how much flak she was getting over it, and he can't deny a tendril of anger growing slightly stronger at the idea. It's true that she has responsibility for her actions, and she should feel guilty-- he always does-- but someone trying to attack her over a lack of control hits a personal button for him.]


I'm used to it, [he says bluntly.] Maybe it's not fair. Maybe it is. The things we do like that are our fault and neither of us can dodge responsibility.

[His expression tightens slightly, but there's no other sign of his discontent.] But that doesn't mean you deserve to be attacked over it. By anyone.

[As far as he's concerned, if anyone has a problem they want to take up with him over it, they should be prepared for him to be supremely unimpressed.]
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-07-29 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
[Although Bruce felt deeply guilty over his own casualties, his were also much more severe than hers. Lives lost over the course of years, whole city blocks destroyed and lives ruined outside of his control. It was impossible to understate how guilty Bruce felt for that. But he never apologized much, either-- it didn't do any good. There was no way for him to make up for the loss he'd caused, and he tried to funnel his regret into doing better, working harder and more ruthlessly to keep himself under control in the future.

It didn't always work. Not by far. But it was a better apology than words.

He's almost a little embarrassed that his hard won experience has helped her, to get such sincere gratitude. He ducks his head slightly, a lop-sided smile just edging onto his expression.]
Don't thank me yet. We haven't really done anything.

[Until now, he's been unsure whether he wants to help her more than some piecemeal words of advice. And truthfully he's still not totally sure he wants to commit. But hearing how much it means to her to at least have someone understand makes him want to try, almost as another form of apology to his victims.]

You have to keep trying, [he says honestly.] And you can't listen to anyone else. Not even me. I'll give suggestions, but you have to do what works.

I know it's hard, and it doesn't really... stop. [There isn't a day off, there isn't a break, and the consequences of slipping are astronomical.] But you don't want to hurt anyone, and that's-- pretty powerful motivation.
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-07-30 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
[He's glad he's helping already, even if it does make him question why anyone else would be so stubborn as to keep pushing her toward things that weren't working. The results were everything when the consequences were what they were here, and ironically that's the other topic of conversation they're discussing.

Bruce shifts his weight at her question, but shakes his head at her backtracking.]
You can ask. I don't answer anything I don't want to. [He says it simply and impersonally, but it's absolutely true. Bruce never lets himself be boxed into opening up more than he deliberately intends to, and one teenage girl asking a question on a very pertinent subject isn't going to bother him.

It is something that affects him deeply. His guilt is a clutching, clawing ghost inside of him, one he can never escape from. But he also believes in taking responsibility for what he's done and owning up to it, moreso than he thinks he should indulge his own desire to ignore his actions. He can't ignore them.]


But yes, it was. I've always wanted to... [A short exhale, centering himself to say it.] To protect. To not be-- the monster that's doing the hurting. I haven't succeeded at that entirely. [There's a dark note suddenly, just a brief hint at the depth of self-loathing he feels, before it's gone and swept away again.]

But I can't stop trying. When I feel like I'm going to lose it, I try to-- remember, what the consequences are. It makes it a lot easier to rein it in.

[The image of Betty covered in bruising and bandages, weakly opening her eyes in a hospital bed, never failed to stop him in his tracks.]
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-07-31 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
[In general, Bruce doesn't see any reason not to be blunt. He doesn't believe in softening the truth once he's accepted it, however long that painful process might take him. But life isn't fair, the world isn't fair, and there's no sense pretending otherwise. Any privacy he might wish he had was more or less impossible, because those around him were owed a certain guarantee of safety from him. Bruce was a constant, walking threat, and if they wanted to know the extent of the danger they were in, he couldn't find it in himself to keep it from them-- not here where they could know.

Korra's blind optimism in being able to protect others, when he'd failed countless times to do that, seems naive to him. But he likes the alternative even less, thinks someone her age probably should feel that way. Maybe she can protect others better than he can, and it's not as hopeless an endeavor for her. Bruce doesn't intend to ever stop trying, as he'd said, but he has to admit he's jaded to it by now.

He smiles just slightly, a wisp of an expression.]
What do you think you'd be teaching me? Fighting?

[He's not saying no or yes yet, just asking. Because if there's anyone that has simplistic motivations for protecting others, it's him. Bruce has never needed more than the knowledge that someone would be hurt if he didn't to motivate him to do it.]
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-01 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
[Unused to anyone really even noticing him in the first place, having his efforts acknowledged catches him even more off guard. Bruce tends to-- mistakenly, here, he realizes-- think of himself as under the radar, unremarkable and insignificant to most people's lives. It's the way it should be. He slides through them and they never notice how much effort he puts into protecting them every single day, and it's only in the places where he makes it more overt, where he provides emergency medical treatment or builds a well for a clean water supply or some other act of louder kindness, that he gets thanks.

But Korra doesn't know any of that. Self-conscious, his straight-backed posture drops slightly as his shoulders hunch forward, and he can't do anything but smile an inch wider, awkward and trying to play it off.]
Yeah. I already-- yeah. Anything I can manage. [He drops his posture even more to look away, break eye contact, and run a hand up over the back of his neck. With a twist of dry humor, he adds,] Tends to get me into trouble.

[Glancing back.] I'm not much into the spiritual, but I have been needing someone to practice forms with. Uh, tai chi forms. I also know aikido and Capoeira, not great but enough to get by. If that's what you mean by martial arts.
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-02 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
[Bruce might be almost unfailingly serious, except for when he turns his humor on himself in wry self-mocking, but he doesn't usually mind too much when others aren't. He doesn't want any authority and doesn't try to impose his opinions on others, and expects that same respect in return. It's probably why his approach toward Korra has worked out so well-- he wants her to make her own decisions, and is merely offering his experiences as suggestion.

He doubts they have all that much in common, but he's not going to mar her enthusiasm, just lets his smile turn a shade more wry. He hopes they don't have that much in common, at least. He wouldn't wish that on Korra.]


I'm actually okay with the, not so spiritual, [he says calmly, not getting into the difficulties of being a staunch atheist on a magical Asian themed turtle.] But it's definitely a component around here. [He is interested in learning about it academically, in betterment of understanding his environment and the rules of reality here.

Then he turns mild surprise on her.]
Really? That's... convenient. It's pretty good for meditation. And most of the martial arts I know because they're centered around defusing conflict, instead of escalating. [With what she already knows about him, Bruce is sure she can guess why.]
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-04 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
[There's the immediate question of what is an Avatar? that Bruce doesn't ask. It seems like it's going to be a large topic, and he doesn't really feel compelled to get into it. The conversation's already moving on, and he's fine with that.]

Shaolin, [he corrects, assuming that's what she means. He's spent enough time in China to know it by name.] I don't know anything about, uh, bending, but we can see what works. Fire might be useful for, letting some of it out on purpose, like I said.

[Whoa, now he's suddenly part of a schedule. Bruce doesn't think he signed on for this, and suddenly turns hesitant, feeling like he doesn't know what he's getting himself into.] Let's just do weekly, [he prevaricates, resigning himself to this much at least.] I'll just check in with you and see how you're doing. But you should really get used to doing the exercises on your own.

[That's the whole point of anger management, after all. You have to be able to do it independently, outside of the controlled circumstances you learn it in.]
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-06 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
[Now he's being signed up for socializing. Bruce feels a little like he'd dipped his toes into the water and then gotten dragged in full force. But he doesn't mind, exactly-- he thinks Korra is worth helping if anyone is, and as he's just said, he's terrible at resisting the impulse to help.

He can't help a slight smile at her, resigning himself even further.]
I'm usually in my lab in Fire at Stark Industries. [Practically an open invitation to stop in and harass him when she feels like it.] I don't know how well my methods will work for you, but I do know one thing. Trying to keep it all in isn't going to work.

When I have a better understanding of your powers I can try to be more specific.

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